Sunday Gabfests Discuss Howard Dean

The discussion on Meet the Press was not that bad.
In particular, Gwen Ifill surprised me by noting that the criticism of Dean is coming from Washington Democrats who strongly opposed his election as Party chair and not from Democrats outside of Washington (even in the South).  When Russert showed Harold Ford's comments about Dean's comments not playing in Tennessee, Ifill pointed out that Ford is one of those Washington Democrats she was talking about.  

John Harwood of the Wall Street Journal noted Dean's relative success in fundraising; under McAuliffe, Republicans outraised Democrats 3:1 in 2003 while only 2:1 in 2005 under Dean.  

Broder, who always reflects the consensus of the Washington cocktail party establishment, was most condemnatory of Dean, but he seemed to temper his criticism in light of the comments by Ifill and Harwood.

On the other hand, the panel discussion on the Chris Matthews was just awful as you would expect from a panel consisting of Joe Klein, Andrea Mitchell, Andrew Sullivan and some woman from Vogue Magazine, who joined in the bashing.  Not one positive opinion was heard.  Alan Greenspan's wife said Biden was the voice Democrats should be listening to.


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Oy (3.00 / 1)

I can't even watch those shows anymore.  Because of Dean, I send money to the DNC.  Because of Dean, I remain a Democrat.  Because of Dean, I have a voice in politics today.

Because of the media, the Downing Street Memo is less important than Michael Jackson's trial.  Because of the media, one missing white girl on spring break (as much of a personal tragedy as that may be,) people don't know that Sensenbrenner walked out on hearings regarding prisoner abuse.  Because of the media, Bush is never questioned, etc, etc.

Dean speaks to me and for me.  The media talk to each other.

by donna in evanston on Sun Jun 12, 2005 at 12:25:01 PM EST

It's all relative (none / 0)

I did see the Tweety Show and MTP.

When Andrea Mitchell and Andrew Sullivan are the liberal voices on the panel, the deck has been stacked. I think the M$M hack from Vogue was Hannity's secret lover.

On the other hand, one of Dean's strongest supporters on MTP was John Harwood from the Wall Street Journal. It was an improvement in the same sense that swimming in a Porta-potty would be preferable to swimming in radioactive waste.

MTP was an M$M love fest and circle jerk. I loved the part where they defended themselves for their failure to cover the Downing Street Memo. Nope. No news story there! It's already been reported. Broder pointed out that the M$M has reported it. Ignored completely was Ken Mehlman's denial that the Downing Street Memo was credible. IOKIYAR.

Broder was in rare form when he pointed out that comparing M$M coverage of Bush to M$M coverage of Clinton was just a case of whose ox was getting gored. The whole panel skipped over the glaring observation that, with one exception, all of the Clinton scandals were hoaxes and all of the Bush scandals have been documented.

Lying about national security and lying about the causus belli for the Iraq war are not nearly as serious as lying about a blow job or covering the latest runaway white girl du jour.

The M$M at its finest!

by Gary Boatwright on Sun Jun 12, 2005 at 02:53:25 PM EST

Re: It's all relative (none / 0)

Yeah, Broder's defense of the media was a classic.  Today, Pincus finally gets a story on A-1  (more than two years late) and that's Broder's defense against Hillary's charge.  And this is the Dean of Sally Quinn's Washington cocktail circuit. Give me a break.
by Ben Brackley on Sun Jun 12, 2005 at 04:06:12 PM EST
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I Never Watch, But (none / 0)

In a vain attempt to find out about the earthquake here in SoCal, I turned on my tv (it warms up faster than my computer). No dice, but I did catch a few minutes of MTP. What most impressed me was that they presented the string of polling numbers showing Bush & his major policies as deeply unpopular, and then proceeded to spew out GOP talking points in his defense.  

There was a moment there when they flashed the low-30s figures for Social Security privatization when you could almost hear the collective gasp in the room. But they recovered admirably.

by Paul Rosenberg on Sun Jun 12, 2005 at 03:16:00 PM EST

Re: I Never Watch, But (none / 0)

I wonder if the freepers are complaining and crying about the liberal news coverage of Howard Dean.
by Gary Boatwright on Sun Jun 12, 2005 at 03:58:59 PM EST
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I'm Sure They Are (none / 0)

Anything short of calling for his head is a sure sign of "liberal bias."
by Paul Rosenberg on Sun Jun 12, 2005 at 05:13:30 PM EST
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